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  • Mr. Alex Moore: Politicians should encourage a co-education model


    • To sum up your position, what should be the educational policy in the context of various types of inequality – economic, social, gender, ethnic, and others? And can we still talk about the need for a common educational policy in an environment where the idea of standardized mass education is criticized from different sides? 

      The point here is to form educational groups wherever we can and with as many children as possible in order to resist the processes that pit us against each other in often pointless competition. I think it is particularly important that schoolteachers continue to build relationships with parents and that through this connection they explain without offensive arrogance what they want to achieve and why they are promoting certain values. This is especially important in the context of a sharp confrontation between several educational paradigms – either state or teaching. My own experience shows that politicians listen to the claims of parents, not teachers in the vast majority of cases. This is partly because parents are harder to push away because they are a financial or electoral resource.

      Previously, as far as I have noticed, you were trying to problematize the very concept of knowledge. Officials, as you have noticed, tend to design knowledge so that it is easily measured and yields benefit like an investment. What perspective on knowledge could be contrasted with this?

      In fact, the question facing politicians, political consultants, and educational institutions is: do we want our education systems to use their knowledge to reproduce citizens who will dutifully accept the existing social and economic order? Or do we want to encourage young people to become interesting and creative? So that society – at the individual and collective levels – can develop, evolve, and improve. If we want to reproduce obedience, thereby stopping creative thinking, then the current education model that focuses on grades and exams serves this purpose well. But if we want to generate ideas and solutions to social problems through this education model, it is difficult to imagine how this could be possible. Implementing a more open, experimental type of training is, in the end, a matter for politicians. So it is unfair to ask teachers and schools how they are going to achieve this. But, of course, there are things that can be done under the current rather rigid system. It is important for us to communicate with the general public and explain to them why teachers talk to students about ecology, sexuality, and other important things. It is important to explain why these issues are an integral part of the broad outlook of modern man, and not to follow the vicious demand for "raising educational standards". Another part of the answer to your question is the principle of cooperation. Student collaboration, although not always valued in official policy, is still widely and successfully used in many schools. It is one of the ways to promote more open learning within the framework of standard criteria, based on the passive assimilation of knowledge and facts.

      In your book Understanding the School Curriculum, you argue that today's students need to be equipped with the skills to understand social problems and find solutions to them. How can all this be integrated into current educational practices? 

      Many of the changes I propose are inevitably political in nature. They can just inevitably disappoint large groups of people. For example, let's look at your question in the context of the environmental problem. It is becoming increasingly clear that large-scale livestock and dairy production is the dominant driver of global climate change. They make a huge contribution to the destruction of many animal habitats and human communities. I think children need to know about this just because they will grow up on this planet. They should be informed of the impact their actions may have on the planet. There are already many schools in the world where teachers are willing to share such knowledge. However, politicians may have a problem with organizing this type of education. This is all to no small degree because many of them rely on agriculture to stay in power. Besides, it is also because their constituents consume beef and dairy products in large quantities, and value their freedom to do so.

      This may be an extreme example, but in fact, its essence is simple. And it is again linked to the global politics and ideology of neoliberalism, which emphasize the value of individual freedoms and freedom of choice, along with the value of competition and market efficiency. National curricula were developed, which are essentially instrumental and functional, are based on these guidelines. Creativity and pleasure of learning in such curricula are often relegated to the background, as is any serious attempt at moral development. Subjects that can encourage students to address moral and ethical issues, even when posed in the context of climate change, are national languages, history, geography, social sciences, arts, drama and dance, food production technology, and design technology. That is, practically every school subject imaginable! But now teachers are forced to use ploys: the current curriculum does not leave room for these disciplines, and therefore teachers are looking for gaps to give students at least some extraneous material.

      The curriculum I am thinking about could be based on a broader understanding of knowledge. Tell me, what can be stronger than knowing how to save a person from suffocation or drowning? Or what about a person who has had a heart attack, stroke, or epileptic seizure? Or how to organize a peaceful protest? Or understand how political and economic systems work? Such knowledge is acquired not only for the upward move in career, but also has the potential and, most importantly, the intention to serve the common good. They can lead our culture away from the excessive individualism that negatively affects societies around the world.






      In your book, you also insist that the curriculum of the future should be dynamic and reflexive. How can we do this when the current political regimes are increasingly resisting democratic initiatives and are seeking not only to control many areas of public life, especially education, but also to prevent the dynamics and reflexivity that you are talking about?

      My suggestions on how to set up curricula are mostly always addressed to politicians and political consultants. Teachers, in comparison, only have the potential to do a lot, but they are increasingly being told what decisions to make and what not to make. And sometimes they are even being told what they need to think and believe, without leaving much room for maneuver. Ideally, governments should involve teachers and other experts in a real discussion of the goals and practices of public education, rather than imposing their own ideology and political slogans. Of course, we can see many exceptions. It is worth remembering that the current level of state control over education varies from country to country and has not always been the same as it is now. In some countries, such as Finland, the central government does involve schools, parents, and communities in developing and implementing curricula at the local level. So there is a Finnish model – and a very successful one, if measured by the academic achievement – that other countries can adopt and adapt if they want to. Thirty years ago in England, before the introduction of the national curriculum, it was common to develop a school curriculum through the efforts of local communities. And in Malta, in the early 2000s, the government introduced a national curriculum, setting rather progressive goals and objectives for schools. They could be implemented using the collective knowledge and professionalism of teachers. But the teachers themselves have not been able to bring about cultural change, either alone or together. The limited strength of teachers is a problem in itself, especially as schools, as well as departments within schools, are increasingly competing with each other for students.

      However, there are some important things that schools and teachers can do, although they will need to find ways to work together with parents, as I mentioned earlier. Teachers' competencies can be seriously developed by working together with other teachers in interdisciplinary programmes. This does not require abandoning the compulsory curriculum, but rather enriches and expands it by loosening the boundaries between subject areas since they are often built up already at the level of primary education. Working with experts outside of school and classes could also benefit educational systems. In the UK, we have seen a similar example relatively recently. The Secretary of State for Education tried to re-introduce the traditional history curriculum, which emphasized the acquisition of factual knowledge rather than critical analysis of sources. Well-known historians, exam boards, and scientists jointly presented the Secretary with a list of counterarguments so detailed that he had no choice but to give up. It is unlikely that he would have done so if the objections had come only from schools, or only from teachers.

      Referring to the observations of teacher Mr. Charles Keck about modern school education, you distinguish two models of learning: passive listening to the teacher (as traditional) and active group work (as progressive). Based on this distinction, what do you think the teacher of the future should be? What skills should they have and what relationships should they build with their students?

      Of course, there are times when it makes sense for students to listen to the teacher carefully and for a long time – when they are instructed on tasks, important information is clarified, or certain knowledge is exchanged within the framework of the curriculum. The logic here is to achieve economies of scale in the dissemination of knowledge, and here we need to be pragmatic.  During lockdown, teachers learned that trying to mentor or communicate information to students on an individual basis requires much more effort and time than when it is possible to do it for the entire class at the same time. In fact, this individual approach proved to be poorly implemented in practice. It seems to me that today teachers need to structure the conditions and opportunities for research training and collaboration of students. They should also help young people plan their research, both with and without digital technology. Today, there are many advanced methods and materials that teachers can use. And they are all easily accessible. But there are many objections to all this, born of fear, especially in situations where teaching still relies on curricula based on memorization and operating with facts and using control systems in the form of tests and exams. Teachers are often concerned that if they do not pass on and instill in their students the knowledge and skills allowed by the curriculum or examination board, if they do not provide "correct answers" and properly help demonstrate their abilities, their students will not be able to do what they are asked to do. Therefore, it will be bad for everyone. In addition to the fear of letting students down, this, in turn, may have not the best effect on the reputation of the teachers themselves, and perhaps on the popularity of their schools among parents.

      From my own research with London schools that have tried very hard to promote co-education, it is clear that it works best when these principles are shared by all staff. When schools develop special internal training and materials, and when parents and students are sufficiently informed about why the school focuses on co-education. In educational institutions that have opted for this model, there is a double positive effect. First, it helps to increase interest in learning among students; second, the results of examinations in the curriculum do improve. I suspect that co-education fails when teachers simply don't know how to organize the process best. Or they don't understand why this approach is important. Or it is not taken seriously by students, because the approach itself is used as something self-sufficient, and not part of a complex pedagogical practice. So there is an obvious need for the continuous professional development of teachers, either at the level of an individual school, or at the level of local educational authorities, or even at the level of the central government. But the interaction of the teacher with students when working together should not be perceived as an exclusively horizontal relationship. Teamwork does not mean that students always decide what they should do and take it into account. Their actions leave a specific and measurable end product: for example, in the form of a formal group presentation of their results to the rest of the class under the guidance of a teacher, or in the form of a written report on the results of each training session. And here we cannot do without a strong role of the teacher. By all means, managing a class where multiple groups can work and talk at the same time can be a difficult task. However, experience shows that it should not be overestimated if the students themselves are better informed about this method of work, fully understanding its value.


      Vlast is preparing a series of interviews about the future of education in the framework of the Caravan of Knowledge project in cooperation with Chevron. The Caravan of Knowledge project is an initiative addressed to the research and discussion of the best educational practices with the involvement of leading Kazakhstani and international experts.